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Pitchfork
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Re: legacy tech enthusiasts
Pitchfork   2/7/2012 11:05:01 AM
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Go tell that to a Rock Guitarist!! Few of them are prepared to abandon Valve (as we say in Britain) amplifiers, besides it keeps me in business servicing & reparing them

Kevin
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Kevin   2/5/2012 11:41:04 AM
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So you're saying the transistor units are more space efficent and more efficent when replacement parts costs are considered?

You are correct of course, but my point was that government intervention was not needed to replace the older technology (for the most part). 

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Clairvoyant   2/5/2012 11:24:42 AM
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Kevin,

Mentioning about tube amplifiers, the reason most of them were replaced was transistors took up less space than tubes, were more reliable, and transistors didn't need to be replaced every so often like tubes did. I wouldn't say tubes were replaced because of efficiency. In some caes, transistors aren't that more efficient. Tubes are still used in higher quality amplifiers.

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Kevin   2/5/2012 10:17:22 AM
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Prabhakar,

I don't think things can "make sense" and be "ridiculus".

I think those concerned with saving the planet will buy the bulbs you want them to.

I think those not so concerned with the enviornment may buy the bulbs you want them to if they were labled with the lifetime operating costs, similar to how most all major appliances sold in the US are.


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Ariella   2/3/2012 10:15:01 AM
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@Kevin I agree with your libertarian ideals. I think the US here is following in the path of European countries that are far more restrictive with respect to the environment. For example, Germany has disallowed sprays on plants for more than a decade. Major display gardens, like the New York Botanical Garden, are under pressure to be more "green" and have replaced all the roses with varieties that are supposed to be able to survive without chemical applications. I can envision the voluntary movements becoming mandatory down the road. 

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prabhakar_deosthali   2/3/2012 8:40:25 AM
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Kevin,

The undertone of sarcasm  ignored, your radical suggestions make sense though may be ridiculus.

Here we are not saying that the govt should force everybody to changeover to environment friendly things - but it needs to lure the people towards these new things that are potentially beneficial to the environment by some attractive schemes.

 

 

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Kevin   2/2/2012 2:55:42 PM
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What a great idea.

While we're at it, let's have government ban all fossil fuel powered cars and fully subsidize replacement electric cars to be paid for with increases in our electric bills.

Why not ban, then demolish, all homes and replace them with net zero homes? The costs could be covered by new income and property taxes.

Why not give everybody anything they have ever dreamed of and pay for it by taking all money away from everybody.

Personally, I prefer freedom of choice.

 

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Kevin   2/2/2012 2:43:18 PM
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Excellent comparison. Tube amplifiers are terribly inefficient but they were replaced by new technology without government interference. Wish I could say the same for incandescent lamps.

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stochastic excursion   2/2/2012 1:24:10 PM
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Lightbulbs in the application of illumination are starting to look like vacuum tubes in audio applications.  Some audio engineers just can't let go of tubes, whether it's because of their unique operating characteristics or they're just used to working with a certain type of component.  Incandescents have their own adherents, and it's likely they'll have a niche role in illumination applications for some time to come.

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Barbara Jorgensen   2/1/2012 5:07:00 PM
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Gary--thanks for a practical guide for the consumer. I'll admit I was a bit confused when I first started shopping for LEDs. And I thought I had a pretty good understanding of things from talking to folks such as yourself over the years about LEDs. I'll have to forward this to other folks that are trying to comply with the new guidelines before the government insists on it!

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