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Jennifer Baljko
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Re: It should be a commodity that common people will buy
Jennifer Baljko   4/14/2012 1:05:17 PM
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Prabhakar, Bolaji - I generally agree with this theory for low-cost, commercial tech products, but in this case, we're talking big-time costs and long-term change involving utility companies. In this case, governments had to offer some sort of incentives to get things moving. I think part of the problem is that manufacturers didn't innovate fast enough to develop more efficient products that could be sold cheaper to a broader base of customers; relying on government subsidies was never going to be sustainable.

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Re: More innovation is required
Jennifer Baljko   4/14/2012 1:00:44 PM
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_hm, Kevin - maybe that's the question: why does it take 40 years to get a payback, and what engineering/technology fixes can be made to make this more economically feasible?

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Re: True belief is required
TaimoorZ   4/14/2012 9:55:29 AM
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"I think governments believe in nuclear energy much more than they believe in green energy and that's a problem"

@Cryptoman: Nuclear energy is much more efficient than solar or any other green energy and has great economic benefits. The problem here is that the governments are looking only at the short-term economic benefits and not the long term in order to look good in financial terms. Green energy may not be as efficient in the short-term but it will have significant results in the long run.


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Re: Praise China for Saving the World
Eldredge   4/13/2012 9:40:52 PM
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@Bolaji,

  I agree. I don't think that green energy at the exclusion of fossil fuels, or fossil fuels at the exclusion of green energy, determined solely by regulatory measures. merits good policy on any level. Certainly, the push for green energy solutions has placed market pressure on fossil fuel alternatives for more environentally friendly ways to use fossil fuels, and likewise, fossil fuel economics places pressure on green energy options to find economically viable green energy solutions. Let both compete in the open market. I think that will be the fastest way to produce real, economically and ecologically viable solutions.

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True belief is required
Cryptoman   4/13/2012 5:24:06 PM
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Without govenments' support the green energy will never take off. It is not an easy change given that we have been so dependent on fossil fuels and nuclear energy for so long. Switching to green energy will be costly and will take time. Therefore, government support for R&D as well as deployment is a must have.

Governments spend billions of dollars on defence and military each year and that money comes from the taxpayer. This expense is justified and the system works and is very well funded. This is mainly because the people and the government truly believe in how important national security and defence really is. Do we all believe in the necessity of green energy as much as we believe in national security? If the answer is "yes" then that means there is a will. Where there is a will there is a way.

Given the current trends around the world, I think governments believe in nuclear energy much more than they believe in green energy and that's a problem.  For most people green energy seems like utopia and nuclear energy is the easy and the cheaper way out it seems.

 

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Reasons for bankruptcy
TaimoorZ   4/13/2012 4:10:34 PM
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Interesting post, Jennifer. What do you think are some of the reasons for solar-power companies are going into bankruptcy? Is it because their products have a low demand and limited sales? If it's low demand, is it closely linked with the high price of solar power generation?

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It should be a commodity that common people will buy
prabhakar_deosthali   4/13/2012 9:08:01 AM
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I support the view that

If a product is good it will be a winner on its own.

When there are government subsidised projects the entrepreneurship spirit is less and hence the projects don't deliver saleable products.

 

Now that by and large people have understood the importance of alternate energy generation, they will support the products using such technologies if they see an attractive ROI.

So the challenge is to create alternate energy generation products that homeowners would buy , like they buy a fridge or a washing machine  and treat that as a standard and required home accessory.

 

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Initial cost of renewable energy
Jacob   4/13/2012 9:04:17 AM
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Jennifer, most of the companies wants to go for greener environmental friendly and to make use of renewable energy sources. But the initial investment costs are burning company's accounts. So government has to come up with suitable financial and subsidiary schemes for companies, inorder to make the initial investment hassle free.

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Re: Praise China for Saving the World
Bolaji Ojo   4/13/2012 12:17:26 AM
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Kevin, Some years back an old head told me the best advertising for a product is the product itself. I have since found out he was right 100 percent. If renewable energy is so good and so much needed, then it should win on its own merit and not by the amount of money being thrown at it by governments.

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Re: More innovation is required
stochastic excursion   4/12/2012 8:33:51 PM
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I haven't seen any studies on the viability of a green tech power grid.  The start-ups that are pioneering this field promote it as an "if we build it, they will come" proposition.

The fact is that large-scale renewables are usually located in remote areas, which make transmission loss a serious concern.  Energy-producers are focused on the low-hanging fruit of existing fossil fuel sources, which are simply not keeping pace with growing demand.  This takes needed investment away from the fledgling greentech sector. 

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