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Susan Fourtané
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Re: Only time will tell
Susan Fourtané   4/29/2012 7:06:02 AM
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WaqasAltaf,

Unfortunately, I belive you are wrong. :( Do have a successful case study to prove that an organization that has no CEO is completely successful?

As a comparison, I imagine a body with no brain, in which case the body can survive for a relatively short period of time, but has no long-term future other than dying. (There is a medical case about this; a baby who was born with no brain and survived for a year or two)  

As Stever Robbins says, "It takes more than attitude to lead a stellar organization". However, he refers to a CEO, and the importance of the role of the CEO. 

-Susan




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Re: Post-Jobs Apple
WaqasAltaf   4/29/2012 1:20:43 AM
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@ taimoor

" I don't the current CEO (Tim Cook) is gaining that much popularity amongst Apple's fans."

If you compare popularity of Tim Cook with that of Jobs among fans who are common users, then there is no comparison nor its fair to compare a newly appointed man with the founder. But from investor relations perspective, the investor community has been fairly satisfied with Tim Cook while they werent with Jobs.

 

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Re: Post-Jobs Apple
TaimoorZ   4/29/2012 1:14:22 AM
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"I bought my Apple devices because they are good products, and am certain that is the same thing with many other users."

@Hospice: I am not sure if I agree with this. Yes, product quality is one factor, but for a large number of users this isn't the only factor. In the case of Apple, it's the "cool" factor that makes many users buy Apple's products just because it has become a status symbol to own an iPhone or iPad. I am not denying the quality factor but not everyone makes rational and informed buying decisions.


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Re: Post-Jobs Apple
TaimoorZ   4/29/2012 1:07:24 AM
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I agree. Despite how good your products may be, you need a charismatic leader like Steve Jobs to execute the plan and deliver them to people. In Apple's case Jobs played an indispensable role in bringing Apple to where it is right now. I think Apple needs another charismatic leader like him. I don't the current CEO (Tim Cook) is gaining that much popularity amongst Apple's fans.

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Re: One more fallacy ...
_hm   4/28/2012 10:32:57 PM
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@Bolaji: I agree Apple is not that innovative. But they know customer need and provides very suitable solution. For most successful person or organization, you do not have to be most innovative. Many other aspect of carry equaly high importance.

 

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Re: Only time will tell
Bolaji Ojo   4/28/2012 7:58:52 PM
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Susan, Looking back five years that was when some folks started reviewing Nokia's position and began raising some doubts about its operations. At the time, though, Nokia's management assumed the company was still on top of the world and didn't listen. Soon it was too late. I don't think Apple is unaware of the criticisms against the company. I just hope they are listening better, sifting through and taking steps to avoid hubris. It would be a shame for another one to bite the dust so quickly.

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Re: Only time will tell
Bolaji Ojo   4/28/2012 7:53:02 PM
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It can't all be because of the guru factor. I just think it shouldn't be underestimated. And, don't for an instance think Apple is not vulnerable. It was vulnerable while Jobs was alive and it is now. But it is also a company with a lot yet to offer and its rivals will keep chasing it for a while longer but you can be sure they'll catch up.

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Re: Only time will tell
Hospice_Houngbo   4/28/2012 7:05:44 PM
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Hi SF:

I am pretty sure there are at least a few people at Apple who were Jobs' disciples and could continue his work.

That is what I think as well. But supposed that Apple`s revenues dropped in a few years (This will likely happen because competitiors are working hard to dethrone Apple), are we going to relate that to the guru factor?  

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Re: Post-Jobs Apple
Hospice_Houngbo   4/28/2012 6:58:20 PM
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@Bolaji

The guru factor does count, you are right. But I still believe that the success of a company like Apple does not depend on just one man. I bought my Apple devices because they are good products, and am certain that is the same thing with many other users.

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Hospice_Houngbo   4/28/2012 6:51:41 PM
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@WaqasAltaf:

"The other not being thought is that may be Apple might perform better after Jobs."

The new management team knows well that they are bound to succeed. That is the least the market can expect from them. It will not be simple as we can all notice (Jobs' shadow hanging over the company), but not impossible.

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