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Barbara Jorgensen
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Avoiding fire drills
Barbara Jorgensen   4/27/2012 12:39:50 PM
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There's really nothing I can add to this, Douglas, but I noticed there weren't any comments yet so I thought I'd start the ball rolling :-)

Well said, as always

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Douglas Alexander   4/27/2012 4:00:00 PM
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Barbara,

I was beginning to wonder if I had missed the mark. Thanks.

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Bolaji Ojo   4/28/2012 8:05:44 PM
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Douglas, Is it always possible even after following your detailed prescription for a company to completely avoid a fire drill during or after production? And, if it cannot be avoided, what are the essential steps to taking care of a fire emergency?

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Douglas Alexander   4/28/2012 9:10:02 PM
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Bolaji,

I think the best way of handling a fire is exemplified by the city fire department. Since what they do is handle fires, aside from fire prevention through inspection and  code enforcement and approval (Initial Quality Audit), knowing things will  can and will go wrong they:

1. Expect or Anticipate a fire (be ready)

2. They have the proper equipment and back-up supplies to combat the various kinds of fire (Every fire has unique characteristics and procedures for mitigating)

3. They have a cross-trained work force (In case of an unaticipated absence or injury)

4. They have specific people uniquely skilled for the particular nature of the fire and the complications engendered thereby.

5. They work as a team

6. There is a fire foreman calling the shots and keeping the eye on the big picture

7. They have back up or fall back plans

8. They can call in extra support from outside their own department

9. They take pride in their work

10. They respond rapidly but don't lose thier organization or heads

11. They stay with it until the fire is out

12. They learn from each fire and incorporate that learning into subsequent fights

You take it from there.

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_hm   4/28/2012 10:40:48 PM
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@Douglas: For this to happen, it needs 11-12 hours a day of work and 10 hrs work on weekend for engineer. After this also you walk very close to fire calls.

 

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TaimoorZ   4/29/2012 1:37:17 AM
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I recently took part in a fire drill at my organization. What they have done is to have a fire incharge in every department who's responsible for ensuring evacuation of all the members in the departments. The fire incharge has a list of all the members under him and he/she cannot evacuate unless all the members of the department have left the building safely. Seemed like a pretty neat setup to me.

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_hm   4/28/2012 8:12:22 AM
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I agree with you Barbra. This is very good and inforamtive article. However, even after following all these procedures, we do undergo fire drills on occasions. This is due to extreme speed of project and pressure of time to market. Also managing new concept, design, performance achievement and providing all these required documents to CM on-time is very challenging.

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Hospice_Houngbo   4/28/2012 7:20:10 PM
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@_hm:

 "Also managing new concept, design, performance achievement and providing all these required documents to CM on-time is very challenging."

I can understand that. That is why this is a team work and everything goes smoothly when the team is well coordinated.

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TaimoorZ   4/29/2012 1:27:02 AM
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"Also managing new concept, design, performance achievement and providing all these required documents to CM on-time is very challenging."

@Hm: I agree that managing component inventory on these guidelines can be time consuming in the short term but I guess it will result in savings in the long run because there will be less glitches in production. Also, it may be time consuming for your engineers if they are not trained to manage the components this way. Once they develop their expertise, they can do it in lesser time.


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Bolaji Ojo   4/28/2012 8:03:24 PM
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Barb, You always had something to add, even if it was only "well said." Aside from this, though, from your experience, (and theoretically speaking, of course) can a production fire drill really be avoided? By the way, I'll also be asking Douglas the same question.

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Barbara Jorgensen   4/30/2012 3:21:46 PM
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Bolaji: I don't think fire drills can be avoided entirely. No matter how well prepared you are -- and Douglas seems to anticipate every contingency -- there will also be something that goes haywire. I think if you can cover the 80 percent (in the 80 - 20 rule) you are doing pretty well. I've had a couple of situations recently where "I didn't see that coming" -- just some bizarre circumstances that must be influenced by tides, the Santa Ana winds, global warming or Murphy's Law. Now, it's funny. But then....

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_hm   4/30/2012 8:47:45 PM
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@Barbara: I agree with you. 80-20 rule is more appropriate.

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a nice system always works
Himanshugupta   4/27/2012 12:56:06 PM
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Douglas, thanks for this post. I did not have an overview of the production assembly but now i have some idea. Your suggestion of grouping the task so that it is easier to identify the shortage and communicate that shortage properly can really work like charm. 

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elctrnx_lyf   4/27/2012 1:12:24 PM
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This article clearly summarizes how to run a production without getting into to many fire drills. But I didn't clearly understood why the ICT and burnin tests are included in the final package after the complete assembly.

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Douglas Alexander   4/27/2012 3:41:20 PM
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elctrnx_lyf,

In Circuit Testing, ICT happens post PCB assembly. The functional testing can be at the PCB, Subassembly, or final assembly level. The examples at the end of the article, were for reference only as to how by combining the group ID info, an assembly level and associated problem can be quickly identified and subsequently responded to from a rapid response approach. You can mix and match problem codes, (not all shown) with the various levels of assembly as best makes sense for your product structure and process failure modes. I was able to use this method to keep the line going while part shortages were identified on the non impacted assembly operations underway. CMs have to be meticulous about part audits and process controls and consequently sometime, they will stop an entire operation if anything, anywhere is unexpected. As you may have experienced in a CM line down situation, other customers may slip ahead of you in the queue and that will change the delivery date as originally scheduled. That is what this Grouping ID process is designed to avoid. I apologize for any confusion.

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Douglas Alexander   4/27/2012 3:56:30 PM
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Himanshuupta,

This solution was born out of necessity. When a CM is building a top level product including the shipping materials and packaging, each individual operation requires process-focused attention as there are unique aspects to each operation. By grouping ID names and problems, it avoids miscommunication as to where attention is needed and if there are assigned work centers per operation, a Process or Test Engineer can go to the CM and quickly identify where on the shop floor his/her attention is needed. Thank you for the kind words. It should work like a charm, but it is the adherence to the procedures and good people that make it all work in the end.





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