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Barbara Jorgensen
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Barbara Jorgensen   4/30/2012 3:43:24 PM
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I agree there is not a lot of maneuvering room for any EMS in terms of profit margin. I doubt Apple will be able to find a cheaper alternative to Foxconn, though. Few EMS are as vertically integrated and those cost savings are considerable. Foxconn also is involved in a lot of other businesses it could trim if it is in such dire straits: the company is building shopping malls, for one thing. Maybe that's a higher-margin business, but there is such a thing as being too diversified. But Foxconn's problems will have an impact on Apple, and I believe it will take the form of higher prices all around.

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Re: Foxconn outfoxed?
Bolaji Ojo   4/30/2012 3:23:35 PM
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Correct. This is a Foxconn problem but is it possible that a Foxconn problem may eventually become a problem for Apple? Gross profit margins in the contract manufacturer business can be as low as 4 or 5 percent and there isn't that much room for  a supplier to add on to its costs or allow the OEM to transfer additional costs to it. So, when a contractor's costs go up it would seem to make sense it would try to transfer some of these to the OEM.

In the case of Foxconn, though, the company has grown by offering the lowest pricing for its services. That, in my opinion, is the only reason it was able to grow so rapidly that its annual sales today now dwarf those of its next five competitors. It marketed itself as a low-cost provider and took advantage of its understanding of the Chinese environment to further reduce costs. OEMs signed on with Foxconn because it can assure the manufacturing scale and low costs they want.

In order for Apple to agree to take on the extra costs from Foxconn increasing wages paid to its employees, the two companies will have to sign a new contract. At that point, Foxconn's offer may not be as attractive anymore to Apple.

Barbara Jorgensen
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Foxconn outfoxed?
Barbara Jorgensen   4/30/2012 3:07:42 PM
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I think this is a Foxconn problem. Foxconn accepted the risk when it concentrated so much of its business in Apple. The EMS business model should be balanced enough so that an upswing or downswing in any one customer or market can be offset by others. In this case, Foxconn isn't benefiting from Apple because Foxconn does not share in Apple's stock. It provides a service. If Foxconn hasn't passed higher costs on to customers, that is a problem, but I'm not sure it can be traced back to only Apple.

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Re: profit sharing
Bolaji Ojo   4/30/2012 2:48:02 PM
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The solution is not profit sharing but cost-sharing is certainly necessary in this situation. A contract manufacturer must not subsidize the OEM's operation and when its costs rise, the increase should be passed on to the customer unless the contract expressly forbids this. And even when it does, the relationship between the two could be impaired by a heavy-handed "we-don't-care" attitude by the OEM.

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Re: Foxconn
Bolaji Ojo   4/30/2012 2:45:02 PM
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This is a Foxconn problem that is connecting the contract manufacturer too closely to Apple. I believe Foxconn needs to get on these issues rapidly and Apple should be pressuring it hard to change the situation.

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Hospice_Houngbo   4/30/2012 1:39:28 PM
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The company might just have to "transfer some of its added costs to Apple and other customers". Apple's huge profits show that the company is either overpricing its products or it is underpaying their production costs. But it might also be that Foxconn was making more profits that it should.

Himanshugupta
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Himanshugupta   4/30/2012 1:14:27 PM
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It can be suicidal for Foxconn to ask for profit sharing from Apple given that 45% of the service belongs to them but this seems like a logical step. After reading this story, i cannot blame Foxconn for a tight grip on its money. Apple and other such companies are equally to blame. With soring profits, if the supply chain is nearly inhumane then who to blame?

Anna young
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Anna young   4/30/2012 1:11:52 PM
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"The Reuters report indicates that Foxconn has yet to transfer much of its higher costs to its customers, including Apple. Until it does, the margins will remain under pressure, analysts told Reuters"

Why is Foxconn not passing on the higher costs to its customers? Apple is obviously not feeling any pinch in its profit margins.

In addition the link below indicates that there might be further trouble for Foxconn.

http://apple.slashdot.org/story/12/04/29/1222241/mistreated-foxconn-brazil-workers-threaten-strike

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