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mfbertozzi
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Re: "Made in China" flap
mfbertozzi   8/24/2012 11:16:29 AM
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@tech4people: very good question; I personal believe the sense of automation is in principal related to the way for allowing humans to do better and simpler their jobs; it is true, we have assisted also to the "replacement" of humans, but I feel it should be also a good point, especially for helping people in avoiding critical and dangerous conditions at work.

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Re: "Made in China" flap
tech4people   8/22/2012 9:43:12 AM
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Barbara,

As a matter of fact;even in China one sees that Robots are catching on Bigtime as a way to keep costs low especially as Employees Demand and expect Higher Wages.

Its just not as Pronounced as in the West today.

But its a serious policy issue(in My opinion).

What do the people do ,if you automate everything?

Especially those people with Low IQs/Not well educated.

How do you re-train them?Where do you fit them?

This is why I feel Governments need to keep a tight leash on Automation lest it gets totally out of hand.

Regards

Ashish.

Barbara Jorgensen
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Re: "Made in China" flap
Barbara Jorgensen   8/22/2012 8:25:27 AM
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@tech4: I agree that manufacturing does not equal jobs. I think that is part of the problem in the US. People believe that massive assembly lines will just reappear. It is also true that much manufacturing is automated, so outside of operational jobs the demand for labor just isn't there. China, somewhat to its credit, still employs humans to do a lot of the work. There is the possibility, however, that factories may not keep up with innovation if they continue to do a lot of assembly by hand. I don't have enough insight in China to predict that one...

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Re: "Made in China" flap
tech4people   8/22/2012 4:00:28 AM

Barbara,

I get that.

But what happens if the Manufacturing that comes back to America does not generate the Jobs[Its all Bots???]

What r u gonna do then?

Do read this fascinating article[It may not open in Internet Explorer-you might have to use either Firefox/Opera/Chrome];but its superb stuff!

http://njbdeflator.blogspot.com/2012/08/the-death-of-jobs.html

There is an old English saying-An Idle mind is a Devil's Workshop-What are people Gonna do if there is no work for them?

War?

I don't like the implications of massive utilization of robotics in manufacturing.

Regards

Ashish.

 

 

 

Barbara Jorgensen
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Re: "Made in China" flap
Barbara Jorgensen   8/21/2012 3:47:45 PM
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I don't think I implied that at all. Rather, the people complaining most loudly about China need to back off, or at least pick their battles. Manufacturing Olympic uniforms in the US is a good PR move but it certainly isn't going to change the economy. China's dominance in manufacturing is a given and complaining about it isn't going to chnage anything. That said, this is a good example of how public pressure can influence decisions.

Rich Krajewski
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Can You Imagine a "Made In USA" Flap?
Rich Krajewski   7/31/2012 6:59:53 PM
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I can't either.

Rich Krajewski
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Re: "Made in China" flap
Rich Krajewski   7/31/2012 6:58:11 PM
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"you will going ahead see a lot more production moving back to the US."

 

If there's anybody left alive here.

tech4people
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Re: "Made in China" flap
tech4people   7/30/2012 5:17:55 PM
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Barbara,

So are you saying here that most of these companies in China are not good(and will never be) at Innovation?

Ashish.

tech4people
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Re: "Made in China" flap
tech4people   7/30/2012 5:15:10 PM
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Bolaji,

All we need is more protests like this one in Bangladesh and a lot more Textile production can and will return back to the US.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/06/16/us-bangladesh-garment-idUSBRE85F0EL20120616

These countries have very little by way of Energy resources so the only way for them to compete in Global markets is to devalue their currencies and so force Inflation down the throats of the General Population there.

However,that sceanario is no now coming to an end as the Workers there are no longer happy with extremely low wages there.If you have to pay them much-much higher wages then their attractiveness as a captive workforce declines which means you will going ahead see a lot more production moving back to the US.

Its there even in China,but China is ahead of the curve here.

Regards

Ashish.

 

Barbara Jorgensen
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Re: "Made in China" flap
Barbara Jorgensen   7/30/2012 2:41:40 PM
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I really like it when public pressure does bring about results. Of course, I only like it when it brings about the results I agree with...but I'll take small, incremental victories where I can get 'em.

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