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Rich Krajewski
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Re: I'm Kinda Glad
Rich Krajewski   7/31/2012 4:32:50 PM
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"Companies collect these used cartridges from consumers, refill them and sell in the name of refurbished cartridges."

I've seen that, but in most cases they were identified as refurbished by third parties, so I wouldn't call them counterfeited. Some of them are pretty good and probably help the environment. Some are pretty bad, though. Poor quality ink that clogs the nozzles.

nimantha.d
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Re: Reverse Logistics has fuzzy definition
nimantha.d   7/31/2012 2:37:06 PM
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Well its good to have many layes but fo me I pffe 3 layers maximum since it will be easy to undestand athe than going through all

ddeisz
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Re: Reverse Logistics has fuzzy definition
ddeisz   7/31/2012 2:31:57 PM
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too funny - "if it doesn't fit in a tweet...". I agree. Thanks for the reply.

Barbara Jorgensen
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Re: Reverse Logistics has fuzzy definition
Barbara Jorgensen   7/31/2012 2:29:33 PM
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Hi Dan: Point well taken. I've actually struggled with "Reverse Logistics" versus "Aftermarket Services" even though the two aren't the same thing. It is true that there are many steps involved in the process, including collection and disposal. I used to view "reverse logistics" as another name for managing excess inventory, but that's not accurate either. Just a thought: vague names are a function of the times: if it doesn't fit in a tweet, (or in our case, a headline) nobody talks about it.

ddeisz
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Reverse Logistics has fuzzy definition
ddeisz   7/31/2012 2:21:41 PM
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Barbara,

I agree with what you have written, with an exception that I'll say is a fuzzy definition of Reverse Logistics. It's not your fault. It's catchy. It is a two-word phrase with many possible meanings and my opinion is that it's being used in many differing ways. If it is really recycle and reuse, that is one thing. If it is "let us manage post-EOL left-overs to maximize profit", it could be slightly different. I've always disliked vague and catchy phrases that can mean many different things to many people. There are lots of companies jumping on the "Reverse Logistics" bandwagon....it's catchy...it's trendy sounding....and there is demand for pieces of the possible definitions. To me, that's a warning sign of vagary in action.

Dan Deisz

Rochester Electronics

TaimoorZ
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Re: I'm Kinda Glad
TaimoorZ   7/31/2012 11:15:18 AM
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I recently came to know about this kind of counterfeiting occurring with used printer cartridges and toners. Companies collect these used cartridges from consumers, refill them and sell in the name of refurbished cartridges. Apparently, there's a large number of companies involved in this business especially in the third-world countries. I'm sure the same is going on for several electronic components as well.

Rich Krajewski
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I'm Kinda Glad
Rich Krajewski   7/31/2012 4:37:21 AM
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I'm kinda glad these counterfeiters helped to precipitate the effort to recover and recycle old parts. Sounds like a happy ending stemming from some otherwise unhappy events.





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