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Live Chat 9/30: Getting Schooled in Supply Chain

206 comments on “Live Chat 9/30: Getting Schooled in Supply Chain

  1. Hailey Lynne McKeefry
    September 27, 2013

    I can't wait for the chat! Here's a coule of good resources in the meantime:

    The Logistics of Education and Education of Logistics

    PwC's NextGen Survey

     

    Feel free to post questions, thoughts and comments ahead of time but do come back for the chat!

  2. Daniel
    September 29, 2013

    Hope to attend

  3. Daniel
    September 29, 2013

    Hailey, in the mail, you had given the previous chat link, please up date it

  4. Daniel
    September 29, 2013

    Another intresting topic for Supply chain

  5. Daniel
    September 29, 2013

    Hailey, what are the topics going to be cover through this section

  6. Hailey Lynne McKeefry
    September 30, 2013

    @Jacob, thanks! We'll be talking about everything from university programs and internships to opportunities to mentor folks. Bring your thoughts and questions!

     

  7. Ashu001
    September 30, 2013

    Hi Guys! Are we ready to get Schooled in Ze SupplY Chain???

  8. Hailey Lynne McKeefry
    September 30, 2013

    Thanks, Tech4People. Always appreciate extra info!

  9. Hailey Lynne McKeefry
    September 30, 2013

    I'll front load our usual welcoming patter:

     

  10. Hailey Lynne McKeefry
    September 30, 2013

    We will be starting at 11 a.m. PST/2p.m. EST sharp. First, though, there are two housekeeping notes:

    First, please make a copy of your post before hitting the “post” button – just in case.  If the system “eats” one of your carefully crafted thoughts, please hit “Ctrl-Z” to recover it.

  11. Hailey Lynne McKeefry
    September 30, 2013

    Second, if you have problems posting, we suggest trying a different browser.  IE9 is a popular choice, but sometimes find Firefox, Chrome, or Safari work better.

  12. Hailey Lynne McKeefry
    September 30, 2013

    This will be a fun, fast, and friendly conversation, so please do not hold back with your comments or questions.  There are no dumb questions and we value everyone's point of view.

  13. Hailey Lynne McKeefry
    September 30, 2013

    Questions, theories, ideas, real world experiences and even friendly rants are welcome here.

  14. Hailey Lynne McKeefry
    September 30, 2013

    And always, please announce your arrival so we can give you a warm EBN welcome and offer you some virtual  guacamole. 🙂

  15. Daniel
    September 30, 2013

    Hi Hailey

  16. Daniel
    September 30, 2013

    Thanks for the tips

  17. lahi91
    September 30, 2013

    ops i think i missed

  18. Daniel
    September 30, 2013

    Another 30 minutes to go

  19. Daniel
    September 30, 2013

    @lahi91, you hadn't missed. it's yet to start

  20. Hailey Lynne McKeefry
    September 30, 2013

    @Lahi91, we'll be getting started in about 25 minutes. hope you'll hang out and join us!

  21. Daniel
    September 30, 2013

    another 15 minutes to go

  22. Daniel
    September 30, 2013

    Another few seconds to go for this intresting section

  23. lahi91
    September 30, 2013

    Thankyou Hailey and Thankyou Jacob , how im going to get da main link to the live chat? im new to this kind of experience

  24. Daniel
    September 30, 2013

    @Lah, this is the link and you can enterr the chat by tying ur question here

  25. Daniel
    September 30, 2013

    @Hailey, no chatting

  26. Hailey Lynne McKeefry
    September 30, 2013

    Hi all, welcome. If you are a supply chain professional, let us know how you got into the industry!

     

  27. Hailey Lynne McKeefry
    September 30, 2013

    Welcome Lahi91. Glad to have you with us.

  28. Daniel
    September 30, 2013

    @Hailey, as a part of day to day activity, i started involving with the supply chain activity for my company

  29. Hailey Lynne McKeefry
    September 30, 2013

    I was speaking ot an Avnet exec the other day and he mentioned that he regularly visits local universities to talk to students… he feels like it is a critical part of thier HR efforts.  That got me to thinking about how well supply chain is getting visiblity with student.

  30. Daniel
    September 30, 2013

    basically am an electronics and communicatiob engineeer with out any supply chain or business background

  31. Hailey Lynne McKeefry
    September 30, 2013

    He also mentioned that Avent regularly brings in interns. These two pieces seem like important parts of getting more and better talent

     

  32. Daniel
    September 30, 2013

    @Hailey, student community is the best to find any talent, which requires to the companies

  33. Daniel
    September 30, 2013

    even we do, marketing and spreading technology to the student community

  34. Hailey Lynne McKeefry
    September 30, 2013

    A recent article in the Wall Street Journal said that SUpply chain is the hot new MBA:

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324423904578523591792789054.html

  35. lahi91
    September 30, 2013

    im  simply newcomer to this electronics feild and industry and i wish to see how things hapen

  36. Hailey Lynne McKeefry
    September 30, 2013

    Glad to have you… what is it about supply chain that caught your attention?

  37. Daniel
    September 30, 2013

    @Hailey, you are right. An Engineering degrre plus an MBA post graduation can be valu added to the supply chain

  38. Hailey Lynne McKeefry
    September 30, 2013

    Recently a bunch of universities started supply chain programs… 2011 sa Univeristy of Houston (CT Bauer College of Business) and Rutgers Business school

  39. Hailey Lynne McKeefry
    September 30, 2013

    2012 Bryant Univerisity college of busienss stated a program

     

  40. Tom Murphy
    September 30, 2013

    Hi Hailey

    Sorry I'm late, but I brought some snacks.

  41. Daniel
    September 30, 2013

    @Hailey, in India some of the colleges are offering diploma and certification courses in supply chain

  42. Hailey Lynne McKeefry
    September 30, 2013

    This has been a hot year for new programs in 2013 new programs included those at: Governors State University, College of Business and Public Administration, Portland State University, School of Business Administration; Texas Christian University, Neeley School of Business; University of North Carolina, Kenan-Flagler Business School, and Tsinghua University; amd University of Southern California, Marshall School of Business

  43. Daniel
    September 30, 2013

    So far No degree courses and hope universities will introduce it

  44. Hailey Lynne McKeefry
    September 30, 2013

    For next year Arizona State University, W.P. Carey School of Business will launch anew program.

  45. Rodney Brown
    September 30, 2013

    Howdy folks. I think “profession” is too broad a term. Are we talking logistics analysts, warehouse pickers, delivery drivers, or what?

  46. Daniel
    September 30, 2013

    Welcome TOM, so what's the snacks

  47. Hailey Lynne McKeefry
    September 30, 2013

    Welcome, you and your snacks are very much welcome!

  48. sfogarty
    September 30, 2013

    Hi, sorry I'm late

  49. MarilynC
    September 30, 2013

    Hi all. Sorry I'm late.

  50. Hailey Lynne McKeefry
    September 30, 2013

    Hi Rodney, at the moment we are talking MBA in Supply Chain

    which includes classes in transportation, contract management and even packaging.

  51. Hailey Lynne McKeefry
    September 30, 2013

    Hi Marilyn and Sue, no such thing as late, only such thing as here! We're glad to have you!

     

  52. MarilynC
    September 30, 2013

    Catching up on the thread! Bear with me.

  53. Daniel
    September 30, 2013

    @Hailey, all these programms are at degree level or short term courses

  54. Tom Murphy
    September 30, 2013

    Hailey: I have some guacamole in my personal supply chain, but I'm looking for a trading partner with chips.

  55. Hailey Lynne McKeefry
    September 30, 2013

    So this is the question at hand, what are the best ways to get students thinking about entering the supply chain field?

     

  56. lahi91
    September 30, 2013

    @Hailey, thank you for helping out, im from srilanka . @ jacob what are those universities in india?

  57. Hailey Lynne McKeefry
    September 30, 2013

    i've got chips of the blue corn variety, it's a match made in heaven!

  58. Tom Murphy
    September 30, 2013

    So why is there such a sudden romance with “supply chain,” which is arguably a rather drab part of the busines world when compared to entrepreneurial efforts, flash trading and other sexier, headline-grabbing specialties?

  59. Hailey Lynne McKeefry
    September 30, 2013

    @Jacob, all these courses are masters degrees.

     

  60. Daniel
    September 30, 2013

    Hailey, educating the student community is important

  61. Daniel
    September 30, 2013

    @Hailey, for that introduce the topic in syllabus either as elective or main subject

  62. MarilynC
    September 30, 2013

    I disagree, Tom . There are a log of interesting things going on in supply chain. Lots of collabative technologies. Rodney you can probably speak to those better than I.

  63. Tom Murphy
    September 30, 2013

    I wonder if Supply Chain has gotten more popular because companies like Apple (notably CEO Tim Cook) have done such a masterful job in boosting profits through managing the supply chain…?

  64. Rodney Brown
    September 30, 2013

    @Hailey, money, of course. Show them that there will be an unmet demand for supply chain management-level workers in a few years, and that usually indicates a spike in salaries.

  65. Daniel
    September 30, 2013

    @Hailey, pG level, its quiet intresting

  66. Hailey Lynne McKeefry
    September 30, 2013

    @Tom, i think that the importance of consumer goods is what's driving it. In the WSJ article I mentioned Michael's craft store was highlighted.

  67. Kim Davis
    September 30, 2013

    What kind of person, beginning higher education, would set out to learn supply chain skills? Aren't they skills you pick up on the job?

  68. Hailey Lynne McKeefry
    September 30, 2013

    Currently, you can get more money but perhpas not as much as one could hope. From the WSJ:

    At Arizona State, for example, supply-chain majors from the class of 2012 earned average starting salaries of $56,410, compared with $50,098 for undergraduate business students overall. At the M.B.A. level, students who took operations or supply-chain jobs reported starting salaries averaging $97,481, compared with $92,556 for all M.B.A.s.

  69. Tom Murphy
    September 30, 2013

    Marilyn: I'm not saying it's not “important,” I'm saying it's not “sexy,” if you will.  Supply chain has been a part of business for a long time. Like everything else, it's been growing and changing, but why is it a hot new subject focus at Biz School?

  70. Hailey Lynne McKeefry
    September 30, 2013

    Zappos is also one that we talk about alot.

  71. Daniel
    September 30, 2013

    @Hailey, at primary focus students have a feeling that supply chain profession means 'sales'

  72. Kim Davis
    September 30, 2013

    I think attracting people to supply chain jobs might mean wrapping the jobs up in something more attractive. Operations, maybe. COO sounds good.

  73. Daniel
    September 30, 2013

    It has to be change and for that we have to educate the student community

  74. Rodney Brown
    September 30, 2013

    Kim, 15 years ago you would have asked the same thing about tech jobs, but now many biz schools offer tech-focused MBAs.

  75. Hailey Lynne McKeefry
    September 30, 2013

    @Kim, i think in the past that's been true, but its changing as the supply chain becomes more strategic. Being able to cut days to delivery can make all the differeence betwen success and failure.

  76. Tom Murphy
    September 30, 2013

    Hailey: Consumer goods have been two-thirds of the US economy for many, many years. I don't think there's been a radical change there…other than off-shoring, and that has been going on since the Reagan era (and, according to some accounts, is now waning).

  77. MarilynC
    September 30, 2013

    One thing that is driving supply chain technology in the manufacturing world is the need to get supplier input early in the product design process. There is a also a ery robust market in product lifeccle management, which involves parts suppliers in the front end, and service providers in the repair, back end.

  78. Hailey Lynne McKeefry
    September 30, 2013

    Rutgers is asking its MBA students to enter a supply chain case study contest: http://www.business.rutgers.edu/sites/default/files/user_files/scmms/scm-mba-case-comp-feb-2013.pdf

    This sort of thing might get regular biz people interested in teh supply chain i think

  79. Daniel
    September 30, 2013

    @Mailync, with out manufacturing or production unit, there is no supply cahin. both are closely associated

  80. lahi91
    September 30, 2013

    seems this is totaly out of my league

  81. Hailey Lynne McKeefry
    September 30, 2013

    Great point, Marilyn… Full product life cycle and reverse logistics are huge topics.

  82. MarilynC
    September 30, 2013

    Absolutely agree, Jacob.

  83. Daniel
    September 30, 2013

    @Hailey, now a days most of the MBA programms are basewd on case studies and this will help the students to refer and self analysis

  84. Daniel
    September 30, 2013

    @Lahi, sorry for that. You can be a close observer

  85. Hailey Lynne McKeefry
    September 30, 2013

    The Georgia Center of Innovation for Logistics, a division of the Georgia Department of Economic Development, has released new research showing that based on U.S. Department of Labor data, the United States will have approximately 270,200 logistics-related job openings that will need to be filled every year from now until 2018 to keep up with projected industry growth.

  86. jbosaavage
    September 30, 2013

    hi all

  87. Rodney Brown
    September 30, 2013

    @Hailey, that's a lot of brown uniforms.

  88. Tom Murphy
    September 30, 2013

    Product lifecycle management is indeed an increasingly important area of the electronics industry, where the lifecycle has now been reduced to something between 12-18 months, and much of the manufacturing is done around the world. To get a product from design to the store shelves and still leave enough time to profit from its sales is no simple feat.

  89. Daniel
    September 30, 2013

    @Hailey, thats a huge number and with that can bring the unemployment rate considerably.

  90. Hailey Lynne McKeefry
    September 30, 2013

    Hi Jennifer, glad to see you with us!

     

  91. Daniel
    September 30, 2013

    @Tom, now  adays technology has a limited life period and fastly phasing out

  92. MarilynC
    September 30, 2013

    Hailey, I've seen some fascinating stuff how automakers are using data from service logs to develop specs for next generation cars. they're taking out the parts that break down from the product designs.

  93. jbosaavage
    September 30, 2013

    what types of jobs are “logistics related”? just transportation? 

  94. Hailey Lynne McKeefry
    September 30, 2013

    @Rodney, good thing they don't all have to wear those brown uniforms. A lot of them will be working with ships and shipping and other things.

  95. Daniel
    September 30, 2013

    @MarilyC, then how they are replacing it

  96. Tom Murphy
    September 30, 2013

    I think the shortened product cycle is one more reason why many US manufacturers are starting to bring jobs home.  Here's a story from today's NY Times about how the demand for American-made goods (in this case textiles) is waxing.

  97. Hailey Lynne McKeefry
    September 30, 2013

    @Jenn, It includes This includes companies that

    provide logistics services as well as those that are
    enabled by the use of logistics to move products to
    their customers, or raw materials to a manufacturing

    plant,

  98. Daniel
    September 30, 2013

    @jbosavage, supply chain has many componets and logistics are only a part of that

  99. Hailey Lynne McKeefry
    September 30, 2013

    @Tom, exaclty! Send us the link ok?

  100. Tom Murphy
    September 30, 2013

    Jacob: Absoolutely.  Example: the big US phone carriers traditionally offered two-year contracts on their services, throwing in a free phone (or highly disounted phone) with a contract. now they're offering to upgrade phones at mid-contract because customers want the latest-and-greatest features.

  101. Tom Murphy
    September 30, 2013

    Oops: Forgot the link to that NY Times story on rising demand for US goods:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/30/business/a-wave-of-sewing-jobs-as-orders-pile-up-at-us-factories.html?hp

  102. Daniel
    September 30, 2013

    @Tom, exactly. the same is happening at various levels

  103. jbosaavage
    September 30, 2013

    Shortened product cycle though was a big part of offshoring. JIT (just in time manufacturing) coincided with ta huge increase in offshore and outsourced manufacturing.

  104. Daniel
    September 30, 2013

    @Tom, thanks for the link

  105. Hailey Lynne McKeefry
    September 30, 2013

    I would think that the opportunity would encourage folks to think about it. According to research from Georgia Logistics (Which admittiedly is focuse don growing the industry) said:

    The nation's 7,642 educational institutions currently generate 75,277 formally trained, degreed or certified workers each year. This will fill about 28% of the related job openings that are expected to be made available every year

  106. Hailey Lynne McKeefry
    September 30, 2013

    Georgia is home to 11,000 providers of logistics services, from core transportation and facilities, to third-party logistics and software providers, making it a real logistics leader.

  107. Daniel
    September 30, 2013

    @Hailey, all these trainings are happening in supply cahin domain or it includes other domains also

  108. Kim Davis
    September 30, 2013

    Well, jobs are jobs.

  109. Hailey Lynne McKeefry
    September 30, 2013

    @Jacob, this is all supply chain but not necessarily the ELECTRONICS supply chain, which is an important distinction.

  110. Daniel
    September 30, 2013

    @Tom, whats the reason for sudden increase in US made cloths

  111. Hailey Lynne McKeefry
    September 30, 2013

    When i think of the current wait for a new iphone, and how much presst hat's received it reminds me of how much event eh person on the street is tied into the electronics supply chain.

  112. Daniel
    September 30, 2013

    @Hailey, supply chain has its own roles in all domains. I mean electrical, mechanical, electronics, avionics etc

  113. Rodney Brown
    September 30, 2013

    @Tom, while the carriers may be trying to take advantage of the shortened life cycle demand, make no mistake that they are doing so to be able to charge a much higher overall cost of ownership to the phone users. The figures on the cost increase to go to one of the new plans if you don't use it every time it is available is staggering.

  114. Michael Steinhart
    September 30, 2013

    Sorry I'm late to the party – what role does 3D printing play in JIT manufacturing?

  115. Daniel
    September 30, 2013

    @Hailey, waiting period may not depends up on supply, it may depeond up on the production facility too

  116. lahi91
    September 30, 2013

    isnt Apple corp forcusing more on asian factories for future maufactureing porccess??? example China

  117. Hailey Lynne McKeefry
    September 30, 2013

    Hi Michael, gald you could make it!

  118. Ashu001
    September 30, 2013

    @Hailey-Supply Chain has become super-critical to Manufacturing today.Anyone who disagrees is totally mistaken.

  119. Hailey Lynne McKeefry
    September 30, 2013

    @Michael, we're talking about getting folks engaged in teh idea of a supply chain and logistics career.

    Grab an intern and pull up a chair!

  120. Daniel
    September 30, 2013

    @Lahi, they are not intreted with China

  121. Michael Steinhart
    September 30, 2013

    I think travel may be a vital incentive

  122. Ashu001
    September 30, 2013

    @Kim-Agree entirely.Today we have a massive Shortage of HighPaying Jobs.I don't think anyone will turn them down as it is.

  123. Michael Steinhart
    September 30, 2013

    Learn logistics, travel the world, make a difference, that sort of thing

  124. Hailey Lynne McKeefry
    September 30, 2013

    I just read that apple is relying much more on china for components. We don't call it a global supply cahin for nothing: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/d70fca52-2691-11e3-9dc0-00144feab7de.html#axzz2gP17GMAV

  125. Michael Steinhart
    September 30, 2013

    a more pleasant riff on the old military one-liner: Join the army, travel the world, meet lots of interesting people, and kill them.

     

  126. Daniel
    September 30, 2013

    @Ashis, what you meant by high pay jobs

  127. Hailey Lynne McKeefry
    September 30, 2013

    @Michael, i think there are two important pieces there: Make a Difference, and see the world. Jennifer Baljko wrote a piece today for us on the difference between teh generations in terms of what they are looking for.

     

  128. Hailey Lynne McKeefry
    September 30, 2013

    Michael, you are dating yourself.. but by me knowing that  ou are dating yourself i guess i'm doing it myself. 🙂

  129. Daniel
    September 30, 2013

    @Hailey, but in EBN itself there was an article about FOXCON and in it its mentioned that Apple have no much intrest with its Chinese counterpart

  130. Hailey Lynne McKeefry
    September 30, 2013

    I also think that mentorship and spotting talent in the organizationn and encoruaging those people is really smart. Sometimes good people are close at hand.

  131. Ashu001
    September 30, 2013

    @Jacob-Jobs that pay more than 50,000 USD /year

  132. Hailey Lynne McKeefry
    September 30, 2013

    @Jacob, that's true but the company does want to increase marketshare in china, so it's a complicated issue.

  133. Ashu001
    September 30, 2013

    @Hailey-Agree wholeheartedly.You need to first look within the Organization,and see if there is someone there who is willing to take on more work/roles ,sorta like an Upgrade

  134. Daniel
    September 30, 2013

    @Ashish, thanks for the clarification

  135. Daniel
    September 30, 2013

    @Hailey, that's a twist

  136. Tom Murphy
    September 30, 2013

    Rodney: good point on the carriers trying to raise revenue through their new plans. Frankly, I think mobile services have got to come WAY down in cost. Cable, too. Typicaly American households are spending $300-600 a month on telecommunications services now, and that is just way, way, too high. It's unsustaiable.

  137. lahi91
    September 30, 2013

    simply seems americans doent like to see asian coming out of the lable 3rd world countries

  138. Ashu001
    September 30, 2013

    @Hailey-Do you also believe that Apple will NEVER be able to crack the China Puzzle until they Cut prices sharply on a Lower version phone?

  139. Daniel
    September 30, 2013

    @Lahi, i can't agree with that.

  140. Kim Davis
    September 30, 2013

    I never thought of supply chain as a glam job with travel, but I am clearly behind the times.

  141. Hailey Lynne McKeefry
    September 30, 2013

    @lahi91, i'd have to argue with that… Personally, i think that improvement for other countries is good for everyone.

  142. Daniel
    September 30, 2013

    @Ashis, i heard that for Asian markets Apple has introducted some low cost versions

  143. Kim Davis
    September 30, 2013

    Again, isn't supply chain something that managers learn inside the job?  Promoting from within makes sense to me.

  144. Tom Murphy
    September 30, 2013

    Jacob: I think the rising demand for US goods reflects the ongoing anger that middle class Americans have about jobs overseas. But I think it also has to do with US tax policies that have long forbade global corporations from repatriating revenue from overseas sales without paying US tax.  The companies are simply storing a lot of cash overseas that is not helping to grow their companies domestically.

  145. Ashu001
    September 30, 2013

    @Tom-There are way too many things in America today that are unsustainable-Medical Costs,Education costs,Number of Americans on Food Stamps,American Defense Spending,etc

    Cable costs figure way at the Bottom here.

    LOL!

  146. Hailey Lynne McKeefry
    September 30, 2013

    @tech4people, i'd never say never… and i don't see huge price cuts coming from apple. It's not in their corporate DNA. the newest lower cost iphone is about as far in that direction that they are likely to go, i' m guessing.

     

  147. Hailey Lynne McKeefry
    September 30, 2013

    @lahi91, what have you seen that has made you think Americans don't want asia to come out of third world status?

     

  148. Ashu001
    September 30, 2013

    @Jacob-It won't work.Its still too expensive!

  149. Daniel
    September 30, 2013

    @Tom, i agree about the unemployment factor. But custyomers are always looking for better quality products at low cost

  150. Tom Murphy
    September 30, 2013

    Tech4 People: I think your question about Apple cracking the China market ignores another question: why should the Chinese buy iPhones?  China is more than capable of innovating and producing an even better phone, and I think we're about to see that happen.  The question is: Will Apple be able to sustain its current revenue from the iPhone indefinitely? Despite optimistic sales number on the iPhone 5, I think the answer is a firm “no.”

  151. Daniel
    September 30, 2013

    @Ashish, it may be right because sofar Samsung products are best and cheep

  152. lahi91
    September 30, 2013

    @hailey i try to belive u.

    @jacob yes  ipad mini was made specialy for us but still taxes are too high to buy in land although many locals buy it via people coming travling to other countries

  153. Michael Steinhart
    September 30, 2013

    I think Jennifer's piece was very good – I made a similar comment on it directly

  154. Daniel
    September 30, 2013

    @Tom & Asish, what about the sale staticts of Iphone 5

  155. Hailey Lynne McKeefry
    September 30, 2013

    @ Tom, i have to agree with you…and the other question is “With current leadership, can apple maintain it's possition of innovation.”

  156. Tom Murphy
    September 30, 2013

    Jacob: Better quality and lower cost don't usually go in the same product.  Americans believe that US made goods are better quality (for good or bad, that's what they believe.  If they pay $10 for jeans instead of $9, and get a pair made in middle America, they're happy to pay the difference and that is better for the US economy.

  157. Ashu001
    September 30, 2013

    @Tom-I Disagree.

    The No.1 Reason you see so much more Manufacturing coming back onshore(to the US) is Energy Costs-Plain and Simple.

    Thanks to the Shale Gas Revolution we have ample and Cheap Gas here,Europe in contrast is struggling with Expensive Imported Gas/Over-subsidized Clean energy and Extremely expensive Labor.

    In Asia also Labor costs are rising too fast,Plus as long as Crude Oil stays above 100 dollars,it makes no sense to ship big tickets items half way around the Globe if the Main Market is America.

    And of course,America remains the World's Biggest Consumer Market-That is Undisputed today.

  158. Michael Steinhart
    September 30, 2013

    And I may be dating myself, but that's inevitable, when you reach my age

  159. lahi91
    September 30, 2013

    i figure out lot of small companies in India make android tablets for lower cost.

  160. Daniel
    September 30, 2013

    @lahi, by cost factor youi are absolutly right

  161. Hailey Lynne McKeefry
    September 30, 2013

    @Micheal, i supsect these generational conversations will be more imporrtant and organizations try to attract talent, especially if there's the shortage taht some seem to predict.

     

  162. Michael Steinhart
    September 30, 2013

    But what about manufacturing jobs, tech4people? Are those resurging here in the US?

  163. Tom Murphy
    September 30, 2013

    Hailey:  I think I'd answer “no” to that, too.  The current CEO is a whiz at supply chain, but innovation? No so much.  No wonder Droids now outpace iPhones in sales and the biggest criticism of Apple is that is isn't cutting prices fast enough.

  164. Ashu001
    September 30, 2013

    @Tom-Yes,here I agree with your opinion.The Revenue Apple makes from the Iphone is going to start dwindling very soon,unless they take the hard decision to offer a Cutprice phone.

  165. Daniel
    September 30, 2013

    @Lahi, but quality wise IPhones are much better than any competitor

  166. Michael Steinhart
    September 30, 2013

    I know an IT expert who is very skeptical of shortages — if jobs open up and they offer competitive salaries, applicants will appear

  167. Ashu001
    September 30, 2013

    @Michael-Yes ,a lot of Big Manufacturers are relocating from Europe and Japan to America because of Cheaper Energy here.

  168. Daniel
    September 30, 2013

    “The Revenue Apple makes from the Iphone is going to start dwindling very soon,unless they take the hard decision to offer a Cutprice phone.”

    Ashish, cut price phones means

  169. Hailey Lynne McKeefry
    September 30, 2013

    @Michael, you are not alone…i hope that's true. it would make this whole thing easier.

  170. Daniel
    September 30, 2013

    @Ashish, is energy pricing is so critical to take such relocation decessions?

  171. Hailey Lynne McKeefry
    September 30, 2013

    We are coming up on teh hour and i know people are busy. but I appreciate you coming to this brainstorming session! I'm left feeling optimistic for our industry.

  172. Tom Murphy
    September 30, 2013

    Tech4People: Certainly, rising energy costs for international shipping are part of the equation for moving jobs closer to the raw materials and the retail market.  The US grows a lot of cotton — why ship that offshore, make a shirt, and then ship the shirt back to the US?   With electronics, the questions are different. Many parts come from Asia, so it may make sense to make phones there, then ship them to the US and Europe — they have to ship anyway.

  173. Tom Murphy
    September 30, 2013

    Thanks Hailey. The margaritas were tasty, and the company delightful!

  174. Ashu001
    September 30, 2013

    @Michael-That is at the end of the day more about expectation.

    Have you read about the 77 year old man who was P&G Vicepresident and is now flipping Burgers to survive?

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-09-23/why-100-000-salary-may-yield-retirement-flipping-burgers.html

  175. Daniel
    September 30, 2013

    @Tom, that's true with textile sector, but what about other industry like Google's plan for Nexus with “Made in US” tag

  176. Ashu001
    September 30, 2013

    @Jacob-Cut price means phones selling for less than 250 Dollars

  177. Michael Steinhart
    September 30, 2013

    tech4people – i hadn't read that. painful story. so how will manufacturing fix that?

  178. Daniel
    September 30, 2013

    @Ashish, i think they can but wont maintain the same features and quality

  179. Ashu001
    September 30, 2013

    @Tom-Even today not all Electronic Components are made in Asia,We have some good stuff happening stateside today too.

  180. Tom Murphy
    September 30, 2013

    Jacob: There are many US consumers who want to own a smartphone, but do not want one if it means that it was made by exploiting workers with unfair wages and subhuman working conditions.  (And, yes, there are obviously millions of people who don't share that feeling.)

  181. Daniel
    September 30, 2013

    @Ahish, ohe thats a sad story, even after retirement at old age days

  182. Ashu001
    September 30, 2013

    @Michael-IT won't .But I was giving you an example of How Expectations play a big part in everything we do.

    You mentioned if Prices offered by Companies rise enough,Applicants will appear automatically for Jobs.

    Today that will NEVER Happen at the high-end .

  183. Tom Murphy
    September 30, 2013

    Tech4People: Yep. And I think we'll see more made-in-USA parts soon, and a lot more coming from other parts of North America, too (read Mexico and Canada).

  184. Daniel
    September 30, 2013

    @Tom, would you think such sentiments can be work out in globalization era?

  185. lahi91
    September 30, 2013

    i got a question when will the patents of effiecient proccessors of APPLE will be realed to every1? will aday like day come in future? i kw my country is rich with best silica in da world but no manufacturers or raw matirial seller here to trade them to chip makers…. i barely know any of the manufacures

  186. Ashu001
    September 30, 2013

    @Jacob-The story has a lot of Learning-Primarily this.

    You have to learn to save.You can't spend your way to Prosperity.

  187. Daniel
    September 30, 2013

    @Ashish, i gree that there are many morals in that story. But i fealt about the pain he is undergoing at this days 

  188. Ashu001
    September 30, 2013

    @Tom-For someone who is so conscious of Labor Rights,What options in the Smartphone space do they have today?

    Apple is OUT

    Samsung is OUT

    RIM???

    Nokia???

     

  189. Hailey Lynne McKeefry
    September 30, 2013

    You have the added challenge of trying to figure out how to measure it. We have been talking Dodd Frank and it's a start but not the whole answer.

     

  190. Hailey Lynne McKeefry
    September 30, 2013

    This is a rowdy group! I've gota  hard stop at the top of the hour but i appreciate you all being here and entering so spiritedly into the discussion!

  191. Daniel
    September 30, 2013

    @Hailey, its time for me to say good bye

  192. Michael Steinhart
    September 30, 2013

    At the high-end, perhaps, tech4people. But if you take a long-term view and bring 'young' people in with decent salaries and travel opportunities, you can build a skilled workforce that will be ready to assume leadership in 5-10 years

  193. Hailey Lynne McKeefry
    September 30, 2013

    Bye Jacob. thanks for coming! See you next time.

  194. Daniel
    September 30, 2013

    Thanks Hailey for this wonderfula nd interesting Chat section

  195. Daniel
    September 30, 2013

    Thanks Hailey and all out community members

  196. Daniel
    September 30, 2013

    Bye

  197. Tom Murphy
    September 30, 2013

    Tech4People: Hence the demand for more US made goods.  This is why Google and Apple are both experimenting with making some tablets in the US.  I would expect to see more phones made here soon.  (BTW, where are Nokia's made?)

  198. Tom Murphy
    September 30, 2013

    Adios, amigos, y gracias!

  199. Ashu001
    September 30, 2013

    @Tom-Nokia are made primarily in China,India and Finland today.

  200. Michael Steinhart
    September 30, 2013

    Great chat – everybody have a great rest of the day

  201. Tom Murphy
    September 30, 2013

    Tech4People: Don't know if it's even a possibility, but if Microsoft bought Nokia and started making its phones in the US, I think it would be a huge boost for Windows phones…which currently have less than 5 percent of the market … especially if they undercut the iphone and Droics in pricing.

  202. Ashu001
    September 30, 2013

    @Tom-Thats tough.Nokia needs to a big market in America first to make phones here.

  203. lahi91
    September 30, 2013

    Thanks all for cooperation and special thanks for host Hailey 

  204. sfogarty
    September 30, 2013

    Thanks, Hailey, this was a very informative discussion

  205. sfogarty
    September 30, 2013

    hope to see some of these interesting changes coming about in the industry

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