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Hospice_Houngbo
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it depends
Hospice_Houngbo   12/18/2013 10:25:15 PM
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Will it cost less to deliver packages with drones? If that is the case, I think it will be more a logistics helper than a pipe dream.

Jacob
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Re: it depends
Jacob   12/18/2013 11:13:03 PM
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"Will it cost less to deliver packages with drones? If that is the case, I think it will be more a logistics helper than a pipe dream."

HH, no chances. It may be costlier because of vehicle cost, frequent sinking with GPS, air access permission from air traffic controller etc.

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Re: it depends
HaileyMcK   12/30/2013 1:13:04 AM
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I picture this as a premium delivery option the way overnight delivery was and is. I'm sure it will never be less costly than other methods but if you needed something desperately in a few hours it might be the way to go.

Adeniji Kayode
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Re: it depends
Adeniji Kayode   12/31/2013 11:52:17 AM
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@ Hailey, you are right. Quick deliveries may also help to save more lives.

Jacob
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Re: it depends
Jacob   12/31/2013 11:30:41 PM
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"I picture this as a premium delivery option the way overnight delivery was and is. I'm sure it will never be less costly than other methods but if you needed something desperately in a few hours it might be the way to go."

Hailey, if cost factor is neglected; then anything can be delivered at a supersonic speed. Actually the solution required is speedy delivery and minimal cost.

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Not likely but it's nice to future
Pavelar   12/20/2013 10:33:15 AM
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I agree with a lot of the comments already described, what I think we are missing is that it's nice to see companies think forward, it always seems we see innovation from defense spending or sadly the movies aka Star Trek etc. it's great to see that companies are thinking, certainly there is a bit of self promotion here, I have no doubt of the value of the free publicity that Amazon got with this , the first thing you will think when you think about Amazon is innovative ideas. Bringing us back to reality is that these drones are not practical even if all the problems mentioned are solved, loss prevention will make sure of that, and sure theft will be a big part of it but how many lost drones can a company risk? There is plenty of information on how to hack a drone and I have no doubt that this will be a reality with anything that is developed, would be simple for a hacker to redirect a drone to a parking lot, less sophisticated then that is as my son told me, dad you can hit it with a rock as it flys by. In the future we will be seeing people in alleys whispering, hey I have a deal for you that "fell off a drone" What I do see happening though is the drones being used for hub to hub deliveries, imagine drones back and forth to fedex, ups facilities making hourly drop offs,. I love the discussion and ideas that spawn from concepts like this.

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Re: Not likely but it's nice to future
Jim O'Reilly   12/20/2013 6:33:31 PM
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@pavelar, the discussion is really intersting! The practicality issue isn't just an Amazon thing. The new DARPA pack-robot is about as practical as a three legged camel...but the idea is heading in the right direction.

Adeniji Kayode
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Re: Not likely but it's nice to future
Adeniji Kayode   12/20/2013 7:47:33 PM
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@ pavelar, of course, innovations win you attentions. T h ere is no way Amazon would employ the service of drons That iT would get more attention from comsumers who want their stuffs delivered on time. heir ioms

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Re: Not likely but it's nice to future
Wale Bakare   12/23/2013 8:49:32 AM
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Why did you say so? Bear in mind that Amazon said the drone would come to commercial use in years to come - may be  5 years time. Within those years skepticism and challenges over drone usage for public would have sought clarifications and/or regulation.

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Re: Not likely but it's nice to future
pocharle   12/23/2013 8:32:04 PM
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In my mind, theft if my biggest concern. How do they mitigate that risk?

Wale Bakare
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Re: Not likely but it's nice to future
Wale Bakare   12/24/2013 2:11:46 PM
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Yeah, i cant disagree with you. Hacking would be a major challenge.

pocharle
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Re: Not likely but it's nice to future
pocharle   12/31/2013 6:03:55 PM
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It IS a major challenge, in so many arenas. THe problem is most people don't take it seriously enough.

Adeniji Kayode
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Re: Not likely but it's nice to future
Adeniji Kayode   12/31/2013 12:00:59 PM
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@pocharle, Do you mean " hacking" to redirect deliveries from their original destination?

pocharle
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Re: Not likely but it's nice to future
pocharle   12/31/2013 6:05:40 PM
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Whatever illicit purpose it's meant for. I'm sure I can't enumerate all of the possibiliteis but I know a lot exist.

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Re: Not likely but it's nice to future
HaileyMcK   12/30/2013 1:15:02 AM
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@Pavelar I'm glad you chimed in! You make some excellent points. Today, there is a huge marketing boost and branding opportunity rather than real world service with drones. Unless organizations are willing to think in new ways, though, we won't move forward. I'm with you...I love these discussions!

Adeniji Kayode
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Re: it depends
Adeniji Kayode   12/20/2013 7:29:18 PM
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@Hospice Do you think it will be cheaper compared with normal delivery methods. since it a matter of choice, you will definately pay more for such service.

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Re: it depends
Wale Bakare   12/23/2013 8:31:26 AM
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@Adeniji, you would expect to pay more for prompt service delivery. If you want your order(s) delivered within 3/4/5 hours you would probably pay more for such service.

Jacob
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Amazon drone
Jacob   12/18/2013 11:11:02 PM
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"Enter the drone. According to the hype, pizzas and exercise bikes will be arriving from the depot on a high-tech magic carpet. We've had successful demos of how this is done, but is it real? Amazon surely thinks so. Watch this promotional video from its recently announced drone delivery plan:"

Jim, idea is good but has to clear lots of hurdle like air traffic clearance, proper coordination with GPS for correct delivery and finally it may be expensive too. the big challenge is each customer has to identify and provide their location coordinates, while placing the order.

Adeniji Kayode
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Adeniji Kayode   12/20/2013 7:33:50 PM
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@Jacob, you are right on that. moreso, who is resposible if somebody else take the delivery before the owner comes?

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Jacob   12/22/2013 10:58:29 PM
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"you are right on that. moreso, who is resposible if somebody else take the delivery before the owner comes?"

Adeniji, solutions for such unidentified problems are yet to derive or identify.

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Self Navigating Drones
prabhakar_deosthali   12/19/2013 8:31:37 AM
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In my opinion, if the drones are made self navigating, which means, given a destination address , they are able to navigate through the current drone traffic in air and reach the destination without any help from a remote pilot or air traffic controller , then they become a viable alternative to the delivery by road.

 

With the aid of mobile technology and smart phones , it may also be possible for the drones to track their destination if it is moving, say to deliver a  pizza to somebody taking a leisure walk in the garden or in the house backyard.

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Jim O'Reilly   12/19/2013 12:17:17 PM
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@Prabhakar, GPS accuracy is at best 50ft and worse in cities.

Further, if the drone idea became common, all those drones buzzing around would have to avoid each other, and that isn't going to happen with current technology.

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HaileyMcK   12/19/2013 7:23:51 PM
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if we could make it work, it would be an intersting thing for hiring. We have a bunch of Gen Y folks who have spent thier lives playing video games...and are probably well suited to the job of drone pilot!

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Jim O'Reilly   12/19/2013 7:48:36 PM
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Hailey, That's scary! Most of the Gen Y played action games with lots of gore. We'd better get the body armor out! Flying pizza bombs????

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Re: Self Navigating Drones
nimantha.d   12/20/2013 5:41:19 AM
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True and still the action figures are so popular among many regardless of the age group.            

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HaileyMcK   12/30/2013 1:04:31 AM
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@Jim, i see an opportunity for Amazon to develop its own game...maybe Drone Delivery Wars...you get points for intact package delivery and customer satisfaction scores. Whoever consistently gets a top score gets offered a job at Amazon. think it would work?

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Jim O'Reilly   12/30/2013 11:21:20 AM
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It will work right up to when the 8-year-old UPS droner runs into a Fedex droner and decides to duke it out!

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nimantha.d   12/31/2013 12:16:16 AM
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@jim: Yes a good one. I think centralizing all the courier services would be something which should be given some sort of a thought of. Any ideas on that ?      

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Jim O'Reilly   12/31/2013 11:44:36 AM
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A single service simplifies things. Maybe USPS gets a drone monopoly.

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Jim O'Reilly   12/19/2013 7:50:13 PM
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Joking apart...Didn't the US Army do just that. I understand it worked well, with 25 percent of the crashes seen with Air Force pilots! I think the Army mandates computer controlled landings!

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Adeniji Kayode   12/20/2013 7:39:47 PM
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@ Hailey, it a question of time. its definitely better than road delivery and therefore would gain more supports.

Adeniji Kayode
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Adeniji Kayode   12/31/2013 11:33:48 AM
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@ prabhakar, That is a wonderful way we can get the best out of these delivery drones but if we count the cost, will this still be at the same price with the formal destination. if these drones are running on fuel, will it be able to make it back to base or this would hzve been checked before leaving?

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Drone or automated car?
_hm   12/23/2013 11:59:52 PM
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I think autos are more effective, lower in cost, safer and proven technology as compare to drones. The only new concept here is auotmation in delivery without humane. Soon, we will have automated cars plying on the roads and they too can deliver parcels as required. Advantage is that they can carry multiple delivery, are proven and safer way of transport.

 

 

 

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Re: Drone or automated car?
Jim O'Reilly   12/24/2013 11:50:54 AM
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It being Xmas, I'm surprised no-one put up Santa drones to fly around chimneys!

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Re: Drone or automated car?
HaileyMcK   12/30/2013 1:17:58 AM
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@Jim, just for you:



Credit to: http://nationalteaparty.blogspot.com/2013/12/santa-vs-amazon-drones.html

 

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Re: Drone or automated car?
Jim O'Reilly   12/30/2013 11:17:58 AM
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Amazon didn't hire enough reindeer this year. Maybe they planned for drone deliveries!

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Re: Drone or automated car?
Adeniji Kayode   12/31/2013 11:43:52 AM
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@ _hm you mean something close to the syfi " KNIGHT RIDER ".

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Re : Delivery by Drone: Logistics Helper or Hype?
tirlapur   12/26/2013 2:28:57 AM
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I usually shop from Amazon and my local delivery/courier service usually calls me at the morning, asking further instructions. If I happen to be in my home then I call them to bring it in, otherwise I go and physically take the parcel from their hands. Although this works for me because I live in a small town, for somebody who lives in a metropolis, it would be tough. As for the drone delivery in equation, the author pointed out the problems. Moreover it adds new dimensions to air traffic control systems, which is rather problematic because without the right communicating systems, this can be a disaster.

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Adeniji Kayode   12/31/2013 11:49:12 AM
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@ tirlapur, You made good point there. Don,t you also think that the use of drons would reveal "who" orders "what".

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Re : Delivery by Drone: Logistics Helper or Hype?
tirlapur   12/26/2013 2:40:41 AM
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Amazon likens the idea to a physical delivery system, because the drones reduce the human element from the equation and therefore reduce costs, increase efficiency and time of delivery. However, as keen as Amazon is for this kind of technology, they wouldn't do anything for a mere "concept". They would always go for assured delivery systems having an assembly line. Automated cars may be a temporary solution.

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Re: Re : Delivery by Drone: Logistics Helper or Hype?
Jim O'Reilly   12/26/2013 12:13:09 PM
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I have visions of a robot car making a delivery by driving up and tossing the parcel at the driveway!

Still, robot trucks make more sense.

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HaileyMcK   12/30/2013 1:16:37 AM
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@Jim, we have self driving cars now...Could robot trucks be far behind? It's going to be really interesting.

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nimantha.d   12/30/2013 4:57:13 AM
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@Hailey: IMO, I feel the involvement of robots is too risky. I think it's good as long as its being controllable but not given 100% access. If not it's a risky thing. 

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HaileyMcK   12/31/2013 2:51:57 AM
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@Nimantha, robots are  a reality in manufacturing. I imagine they could be very useful in package delviery too. Maybe not DRIVING the trucks..but sorting? Who knows.

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Re: Re : Delivery by Drone: Logistics Helper or Hype?
Adeniji Kayode   12/31/2013 11:40:46 AM
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@ Hailey, I agree with you on that. I think sorting is still within the jurisdiction of what robots c a n do but driving and delivering orders may still have to wait for their turns.

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Jim O'Reilly   12/30/2013 11:19:21 AM
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Brown robo-trucks? Definitely, and they'll be fitted with an arm to throw your new TV over the fence!

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nimantha.d   12/31/2013 12:18:40 AM
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@Jim: Just one piece of advice. IMO technology should be re-used as much as possible due to the cost factor.       

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Drones for target practice?
Eldredge   1/8/2014 8:41:44 PM
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Recently, a town in Arizona was in the headlines for placing a bounty on shooting drones....could be a significant issue for Walmart's proposal as well.

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Drones for target practice?
Eldredge   1/8/2014 9:01:34 PM
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Recently, a town in Arizona was in the headlines for placing a bounty on shooting drones....could be a significant issue for Walmart's proposal as well.

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Re: Drones for target practice?
Jim O'Reilly   1/9/2014 11:21:10 AM
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That could be a real problem for Target :)

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Re: Drones for target practice?
Eldredge   1/9/2014 9:33:48 PM
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Particularly if they use their company logo on any part of the drone. Too tempting to resist!

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Jim O'Reilly   1/10/2014 11:22:56 AM
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I think we just uncovered another use for drones...Replacing planes towing banners!

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Re: Delivery by Drone: Logistics Helper or Hype?
tirlapur   2/22/2014 10:27:14 AM
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In a more social perspective, drones can really be helpful for providing subsistence in regions isolated by flood or any other natural calamities quicker and save a lot many lives.

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Re: Delivery by Drone: Logistics Helper or Hype?
Jim O'Reilly   2/22/2014 12:21:15 PM
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Drones can do a better job searching for victims too.





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